Press Release
November 29, 2012

TRASNCRIPT OF KAPIHAN SA SENADO
WITH SENATE PRESIDENT JUAN PONCE ENRILE

On Sin Taxes

SP: The first news I will tell you is I am going to start smoking again.

Q: Why sir?

SP: My brand is Yun Yan. This is my brand. Twenty pesos in Divisoria. Meron bang kumpanya na nagmamanufacture ng sigarilyo na may Chinese character? At ang kanyang brand ay Yun Yan? Masarap ang amoy ng sigarilyong ito. Yun daw yan. Yun Yan. Ngayon, wala kayong nalalaman na kumpanya na nagmamanufacture ng sigarilyo na ang brand ay Yun Yan. Mahal itong sigarilyo na ito. Twenty pesos sa Divisoria. Paano nakapasok ito? Palagay ko lumangoy ito o kaya may factory na sikreto dito sa Pilipinas na hindi alam ni Kim Henares. Nag mamanufacture at nagbebenta ng sigarilyo. Pula pa ang kulay, maroon. Kaya gusto kong sigarilyuhin ito para ba nung Japanese time, masarap yung kanilang Ekibono na Japanese. Ito naman, amoy Intsik. Yun Yan. Kayo, you should start smoking, not Marlboro kundi Yun Yan. Magfa-flooding ng Yun Yan sa Pilipinas pag mahal ang presyo ng sigarilyo. Twenty pesos na ito ha? Kung ang magiging single rate natin na was approved yung version ng Senado na twenty-six pesos per pack, ito, twenty plus twenty-six, magiging forty-six pesos lang, so okay pa. Kayang-kayang sigarilyuhin yung Yun Yan ng China. Ang problema dito, paano nakalusot ito? Paano pumasok ito? Sino ang nagpapasok nito? Sino yung mga smart guys o smart girls, o may connection o may impluwensiya na nagpapasok ng Yun Yan? Ang ganda pa ng pangalan, Yun Yan. Sabi ng taga China, Yun Yan sa Pilipino.

Q: So ibig sabihin, hindi pa ganap na batas yung Sin tax Reform bill, may smuggling na?

SP: Meron na. May smuggling operation going on in the Philippines, pero quietly, hindi tina-tax. Pero ngayon, yung produkto ng Pilipinas na tabako, yun ang papatawan ng malaking tax kaya kataka-taka kung bakit hindi tina-tax itong mga smuggled cigarettes. Ang tabako nito hindi mula Pilipinas. Tubo ng ibang bansa. Ang mga trabahador na gumawa nitong sigarilyong ito, hindi Pilipino kung hindi taga labas. Ang makinarya ng gumawa ng sigarilyong ito, wala sa Pilipinas, taga labas. Kaya pag hindi na mapipigil itong smuggling na ito sa kasalukuyang sistema ng ating taxation, ano pa kaya pag itinaas mo ng katakot-takot ang presyo ng sigarilyo ng Pilipinas, sa ilalim ng mataas na buwis? Yun ang katanungan ko kaya Secretary Purisima, Commissioner Kim Henares, Ano ba? Bakit merong Yun Yan dito sa Pilipinas? Bakit hindi ninyo hinuhuli ito, nakakalat sa Divisoria? Bakit? Tanong lang naman yun. Bakit hindi hinuhuli? Ngayon, pag napasa natin yung batas at ipapasa natin sapagkat kailangan natin, kaya ba nila na mapangalagaan yung magiging dadagsang smuggling sapagkat mas malaki ang smuggling na darating pag darating yan. Kaya ako, naglaan ng P2 Billion doon sa kikitain doon sa bagong buwis, para sa ganoon ay magkaroon ng pera na gugugulin upang hulihin lahat ng mga smugglers ng sigarilyo sa Pilipinas.

Q: 'Yung P2 Billion sir ilalaan sa Customs?

SP: Ilalaan sa law enforcement. Coast guard, customs, at saka BIR. Pati na siguro ang buong Armed Forces of the Philippines, bibigyan ng pera na yun para gagamitin para hulihin ang mga smugglers. P2 Billion.

Q: Di ba may ongoing investigation kayo about a series of smuggling?

SP: Kaya nga tatanungin ko. Kaya ako nagsisigarilyo na ngayon, dahil masarap ang amoy. Amoy Beijing. Baka galing sa Hainan ito o sa Shanghai.

Q: Are you still hoping na pagdating sa Bicam may mga remedy pang mangyayari sa Sin tax reform bill?

SP: Hindi ko alam. Hindi ko pakikialaman yung Bicam. Kaya lang, sinuggest ko na kasama si Bongbong at si Senator Recto.

Q: How were you able to acquire that pack?

SP: Somebody gave it to me this morning. Binigay sa akin ito sa Intercon, sa 365. Sabi niya, alam mo ba na maraming sigarilyo ngayon doon sa Divisoria? Anong sigarilyo yun, Marlboro? Mighty? Hindi, sabing ganun. Yun Yan. Anong Yun Yan? Eto. Inamoy ko, masarap nga, amoy Beijing. Amoy Intsik. Meron pang cellophane.

Q: Hindi lang kaya nag-iisa yan?

SP: Marami daw. Binili to para patikman sa akin, masarap daw.

Q: Pero sir during the deliberation ng Sin Tax Bill, they are claiming na trabaho ng authorities na sugpuin nga yang smuggling?

SP: Maraming brands doon na pinagbibili, hindi na natatax. Di ba, may pinalabas noon na mga brands na pumapasok sa Mindanao na hindi na tinatax? Eh ngayon pala meron na dito sa Maynila? Ang pangalang ay Yun yan.

Q: May info ka gaano kalaki ang volume nitong mga smuggled? Magkano yung amount?

SP: Wala pa. Pinaaabot ko lang sa mga may katungkulan, sa ilalim ninyo, para sa gayon, ngayon pa lamang, umpisahan na nila ang kampanya kontra sa smuggling. Magmula sa araw na ito, we have to start the campaign of smuggling of tobacco products including distilled spirits and fermented liquor. Meron.

Q: May estimate ka magkano ang nawawala sa possible tax collection?

SP: Hindi natin alam. Lalaki yan sapagkat kung mahal yung produkto natin sa local, ito ay walang bayad twenty pesos, dapat ito ay magiging thirty or forty pesos sana. Sa 2017, magiging twenty-six, di ba? Samakatuwid, at least at this time, ito, dapat ang presyo ay magiging forty pero twenty lang. Malaki ang kinikita nito. Baka at cost lang nito, two pesos lang. Five pesos sa labas, di meron silang kita na thirty-five.

Q: Mas lalong hindi magiging realistic yung target na P40 Billion kung hindi masusugpo itong smuggling?

SP: Hindi mawawala. Yung argumento nila Secretary Ona na maraming titigil na magsisigarilyo at walang papasok na bagong magsisigarilyo, hindi magiging totoo sapagkat may supply na clandestine na hindi nila alam, o alam nila pero nagbubulag-bulagan.

Q: Di ba may objections about the inclusions of Senators Bongbong and Ralph in the Bicam?

SP: Wala naman kahapon pero nabasa ko yun, may objection si Secretary Ona at saka yung mga doctor. Pero hindi sila ang magdedecide dyan, kami sa Senado ang magdedecide kung sino sa aming mga miyembro ang magpapasa sa Bicameral Conference ng batas.

Q: So member sila ng Bicam panel para sa Sin Tax bill?

SP: Yes. Si Bongbong at si Recto. Ang dalawang Cayetano naman ang nasa minority. Si Pia na kalaban ng naninigarlyo. Gusto niyang patayin yung sigarilyo.

Q: Balanse lang yung Bicam panel?

SP: 'Yung iba, para sa revenue naman sila pero yung mga kontra sa produkto talaga, si Ralph naman hindi kontra sa produkto kundi gusto lang niya na reasonable yung lalabas na batas. Si Bongbong, talagang kagaya ko, we have to protect the tobacco farmers of our region.

Q: Kailang magsastart ang Bicam?

SP: Hindi ko alam.

Q: 'Yung sinasabi pong when you go against the Sin Tax Reform bill, you are being in favor of tobacco companies?

SP: Hindi totoo yun. Paano kami magiging pabor sa cigarette companies, ang prino-proteksyunan namin dito mga nagtatrabaho sa mga kumpanya na gumagawa ng anumang produkto dito sa Pilipinas. Pangalawa, yung mga kababayan natin na nagsusupply ng raw material diyan sa mga kumpanya na yan, maging tabako, mais, bigas, baboy, manok o ano man. Yun ang amin. Sa akin, in particular at kay Bongbong. Kami ay mga taga Ilocos. Kami ay mga Ilokano. Ang hanapbuhay ng mga kababayan namin sa Ilocos, ay mga magtatabako, nagtatanim ng tabako. Ayaw naming magugutom yung aming mga kababayan. Kung may magsisigarilyo din lang, bakit natin hindi pabayaan na sila ang magsusupply ng tabako? Bakit natin papayagan yung banyaga kagaya ng China na sila ang magsusupply ng tabako, ng sigarilyo sa atin? Yun ba ang ating patakaran? Kung ganoon, alam ng mga taga Norte kung ano ang gagawin nila sa darating na eleksiyon. Hindi ako nananakot, yun ang ugali namin, dahil masasaktan kami roon.

On the possibility of block voting on Sin tax bill

SP:: Makikita niyo kung paano kami gumalaw kung kami gagalaw.

On whether SP is against any version of the Sin Tax bill

SP: I was the first author of the unitary taxation of Sin tax but it must be reasonable. It must not be oppressive, confiscatory or destructive like what Sec. Ona wants or the others want. I voted in favor because that is the version of the Senate. That's why you have the bicam because there is no unanimity between the House and the Senate, but I understand that there is an effort to increase the tax of tobacco in order to lighten the tax on alcohol, hindi naman tama 'yon.

On P26 cigarette tax

SP: Sa akin pwede na 'yon because the highest level of tax, if I remember correctly, for premium cigarettes, I think, is P28, so P26 is reasonable if you make everyone pay the same tax compared to the version of the Department of Finance which is P32.

On the alleged efforts to increase tax of tobacco during the bicam meeting

SP: That is what I heard but I cannot reveal the source of my information. I understand that some functionaries in government are toying the idea--maybe due to policy consideration or pressure, I am not talking of Malacañang, Malacañang is out of this issue... of increasing the tax burden of tobacco higher than the burden imposed under the version of the House from P26 to P27 in order to lighten the tax on alcohol. 'Yun ang balita ko. Hindi ko alam kung totoo 'yun or hindi. Ang sinasabi ko lang nabalitaan ko 'yun.

On the Senate's distribution version of 60/40

SP: Ang aggregate ay 40. The distribution of burden between alcohol and tobacco is 60 for tobacco or P24 billion and P16 billion for alcohol. Pero ang balita ko, some officials gusto ay hindi 16 kundi bababaan 'yong alcohol to I think mga 11. 'Yung balance, ay kakarga sa tobacco.

On his advice to the members of the bicam

SP: Hindi ako magsasalita. Ang sinasabi ko lang ang nababalitaan ko. Kung totoo man 'yun o hindi, I don't know. I do not know whether what was told to me was true or not. I am just saying that..Huwag naman, kawawa naman mga tobacco farmers namin. I am not protecting any company, mga cigarette companies na 'yan. They can shift to other businesses or close their factories here. But who will absorb these employees if they will close? If they will not continue manufacturing? And yet, we will not be able to stop the entry of cigarettes in the country and Sec. Ona's claim that he can stop smoking will not be true. Until now, there are smuggled cigarettes as I am proving it to you now. In Mindanao there are already smuggled cigarettes there. "Yong pala dito sa Maynila mayroon din at ang kanyang brand ay ito, hindi ako inimbento ito.

On whether he will support the ratification of the Sin tax bill in the bicam

SP: Hindi ko alam. I do not know.

On the early passage of the 2013 budget

SP: Some people say we have become a rubber stamp of Malacañang but that is not true. We discussed it, we debated it, everybody put his or her two-cents worth in the discussion and 'yong mga people who did not get what they wanted are crying, maybe, I do not know, but that is the name of the game. You win some, you lose some. We passed the bill, we scrutinized it and I think that's the level of expenditure that the government would want to do, provided they spend that money then it will enhance the economy of the country

On whether it was first time the budget was approved before December.

SP: Hindi, we have done it many times already. Since I became Senate President and Sen. Drilon became the chair of the Finance Committee. I handled the Finance Committee before I became Senate President so when I became Senate President, Sen. Drilon handled it.

On Suarez's proposal to suspend the implementation of CCT program during election

SP: We have to study that because the CCT program is for the poor and the poor cannot stop eating during election time.

On whether there is merit to Suarez's proposal

SP: Meron. Totoo 'yun. Pero sa palagay ko naman maski bibigay mo sila ng pera, may kanya kanyang damdamin din 'yon sa politika.

On the economy's growth of 7.1%

SP: I am not an economist but I suppose no one can ignore the fact that nagmamushroom mga tall buildings sa Pilipinas. Maraming mga projects sa probinsya, maraming ginagawa mga resorts, kung ano ano. These are indicators of a growing economy. Bakit sila pinapatayo nang mga matataas skyscrapers kung walang ginagamit or walang economic return? Bakit nababawasan 'yong unemployed? At saka 'yong atin rate of exchange, nagiging mahal ang presyo ng piso contra dolyar. Magkano 'yong baht ng Thailand dahil ang baht halos makaparehas sa piso. Noon araw mas mahal 'yong baht compared to the peso.

Ang pinamalaking export natin ay ang OFW. Export 'yan. Kaya ako contra sa RH dahil d'yan. Ang magpapalago sa bansa natin ay 'yong pala-excess population natin na sinasanay natin na tumatangap mga trabaho abroad that others do not want to handle. We have to accept that. Korea started that way.

On whether credit for the 7.1% economic growth in the 3rd quarter should be given to the past administration or the present.

SP: May epekto naman 'yong policies na inadopt nang previous administration but it is mainly because of the effort of the current administration. Mind you, the current administration is already in place since July 2010 so magiging 2 -- years na. By June next year, three years na itong administration. So, we have to give credit where credit is due and I think the previous administration began the policy and it was continued by the current administration plus their effort, so, at least now we are reaping the product of two administrations.

Ang Tanong. 'Yong bang growth na 'yan ay nararamdaman ba sa ibaba? 'Yong ang kailangan pag-aralan kung it shifts down to the lowest economic level of the social ladder. Create more jobs, spend more money so that there will be more money in the pockets of the people. And we will lessen the tax burden so that there will be more money left for consumption.

SP: Kailangan tanungin natin dun sa may mga kapangyarihan. Si Enrile 'di niya masasagot yan.

Q: You have three remaining weeks before Christmas break so you still have time for RH bill?

SP: Oo. We always have time for RH bill pero mind you marami pa kong amendment na ipapasok. Hindi natin masasabi kung kailan natin matatapos yun.

Q: Dun sa six proposed amendments, ilan yung naapprove?

SP: Yung ibang mga ipapasok ko, talagang mga substantial amendments.

Q: Since tapos na po ang Sin tax and budget, next week po ba RH bill na?

SP: Hindi ko alam kung anong paguusapan namin next week. Maraming masasalang eh. Kagaya nung Freedom of Information bill.

Q: Rep Edcel Lagman said that they will push to vote for RH bill before Christmas break?

SP: Whatever the House does, we will do our own thing.

Q: Sir, Rep. Lagman is also asking the president to certify this bill as urgent?

SP: I cannot answer for the president. The president has the power to certify or not to certify.

On SP's vote on the RH bill

SP: My vote is against the RH bill. Kahit tanggapin yung aking mga proposal, not because of religion and morality, but because of my long term assessment of what this bill does to the country. It is my duty as a leader of this country to vote of what is good for it. I am not saying that I am right but that is my perception. I vote according to my perception.

On priority bills

SP: Hindi ko priority yung RH. My priorities are to control smuggling, to protect the local industries especially our agricultural sector. Yan ang ginagawa naming ngayon di ba that's a part of it? Susunod yung entry of vegetable oil. Yung smuggling tungkol sa gasoline, sigarilyo, manok at pork. Lahat yan may nasasaktan dito sa Pilipinas.

Q: Sir, if you don't mind, why are you still pushing for amendments sa RH bill kung ang boto niyo pa din naman ay NO?

SP: Just to show them that we are not delaying and we want to refine it.

Q: Papano po pag tinanggap yung proposal niyo?

SP: To tell you the truth, my purpose in pushing for some of my amendments is to show to the people that this bill is not really all for the health of the women. It is a population control and management na naramdaman ko na yun. Hindi ba everytime I touch on population, tumatalon si Sen. Pia Cayetano? Ayaw nila aminin na this is about population control. The real purpose is to contract population of the country. We are talking about fertility rate, too much poverty. We are talking about social development. What is that? Sabihin nyo ang katotohanan. Population control and management yan e. Hindi health bill ng kababaihan lang. Incidental lang yun.

Q: Yung stand niyo sa RH bill, hindi ba ito makakaapektado sa candidacy of your son?

SP: Well, if my son will lose because of that issue then so be it.

Q: Do you believe in Catholic vote?

SP: Let's see. Let's wait for the pudding to be cooked. I hope that people will not get surprised. I am not saying this to threaten anybody? What brought about EDSA? Who were the people to bring down an administration? Hindi ba yung panawagan daw ni Cardinal Sin of the faithful to bring down the administration? You have forgotten that event? That should be a food for thought for anybody who says that there is no such thing as a Catholic vote but there is such thing as a Catholic effort.

Q: Marami na naman ang nadaya ng sa pyramid scam do you see the need to strengthen the law regarding this?

SP: Alam mo there is a saying "Suckers are born every minute." Maraming naniniwala lalo na sa pagkakakitaan. Ano yan, based on greed. Desire for wealth and easy money. Nagpupunta sa casino para kumita pero hindi alam sa bandang huli, mauubos yung kanyang bulsa. These are all products of greed. Hindi batas ang kailangan. Ang kailangan ay law enforcement.

Q: Sir, may nakikita po kayong failure on the part of the government regulators?

SP: Hindi ko na tinitignan yun. Bahala na yung Ombudsman to charge them.

Q: Sir, dun sa anggulong nagamit yung pera para ipondo dun sa terrorist group?

SP: Pag-aralan nila yun kung totoo yun. Hindi ko malaman kung bakit yung money laundering council ay hindi gumagalaw. Karamihan dyan baka yung pera ng droga dyan din galing. Hindi ko sinasabing ganun pero yun ang suspicion ko.

Q: Sir, nabanggit niyo 'yung sa drugs, kasi recently may report 'yung PDEA na there are 53 politicians. I have heard that you have the list.

SP: Wala akong listahan. Kung may listahan ako, ipinakita ko na sa inyo. Pag nasa akin 'yung ebidensiya, papakita ko sa inyo.

On narco-politics

SP: Matagal na 'yang narco-politics. Hindi lang ngayon. Pati sa Amerika mayroon na iyang narco-politics na sinasabi. Hanggang doon lang, dakdakan lang, sa panahon ng eleksyon. Alam mo, kapag ikaw ay kandidato at nangangailangan ka ng pera kapag nagkakampanya ka, hindi mo na tatanungin 'yung magbibigay sa'yo ng pera kung saan ba niya kinuha 'yon.

Some politicians are, maybe, aware of the source.

On the DFA's decision not to put a stamp on Chinese passports with the new map showing the west Philippine Sea

SP: Pwede rin naman. Pwede ka namang gumawa na lang ng form. Tatakpan mo 'yung mapa. Para pumasok 'yung may hawak, ididikit mo 'yung admission slip doon sa mapa.

Kung talagang seryoso ang Tsina na ang South China Sea ay sila ang may-ari, dapat ipatupad nila na kailangan may visa lahat ng dadaan doon sa South China Sea na sinasabi nila. Nandoon din tayo. Paano 'yon? The fact is even America, Japanese, all kinds of ships pass through that sea. How can they say that that belongs to them? Under what title recognized by other nations? That is their self-serving claim. As far as we are concerned, we do not recognize it.

Q: Sabi ni Senator Miriam, huwag hayaan makapasok sa Pilipinas 'yung mga holder and then mag-self deportation sila pagdating ng airport, sir...

SP: Paano naman 'yung mga hotel natin dito? Paano na 'yung turismo? Madaling sabihin 'yon. Kaya ako, payag ako sa sistema ng DFA.

Q: Is there a necessity para dalin 'yung issue sa UNCLOS?

SP: Bahala na 'yung mga diplomatic experts natin diyan. I do not claim any expertise in international law. Ako, praktikal lang ako when I approach the problem.

On Rep. Jack Enrile

Q: Will you be the campaign manager of your son?

SP: Of course, it's for my son. I don't think a father would abandon his son. I'm not like that. As I told you, I do not decide the fate of my son. It's going to be decided by the people but it's my duty as his father to believe in him and go out and campaign for him. If I do not believe in my son, who else will believe in him? I have faith in the capability of my son, modesty aside. That is why he is my son. I trained him from the time he came into this world.

I will campaign for all the candidates of UNA. I've already planned my own campaign for the candidates of UNA. No offense, nothing personal. We are talking of a country. We're talking of politics and it's important and healthy to have two sides of every political issue so that it can be debated soberly, wisely and expansively so that the people will know and it's up to them to decide. I think in this election, I will campaign for UNA as much, if not more than, I have campaigned when I was running personally for the office because I believe in the direction of UNA. It's not a group of people who will be antagonistic to the presidency. There are at least two sides to every issue in politics. The judge is not anyone of us. The judge will be the people. They're the national jury. They're the source of power for any elective official.

I will also support some people in the Liberal Party, si Chiz at Loren.

On the Ampatuans running under UNA

SP: Alam mo, kung hindi naman sila nasasangkot sa kaso, bakit naman natin paparusahan sila? Kung may kasalanan 'yung tao, parusahan mo but if you have not established a case against the person, do not deny him the right he is entitled to.

On the Philippines' economic growth

SP: Let us accept that figure. Let us move on and see how it will look until the end of the year and beyond. I think it's true naman. Hindi naman siguro iimbentuhin ng administrasyon 'yan. All of us should accept it and thank God that we are growing that high now.

We have to re-examine our policies in order to bring higher level of confidence to outsiders who will do business in the Philippines. We must be sure that our policies are not chameleons that could change anytime.

On the RH Bill

Q: Ang hihingin daw po nila, i-close ang period of amendments...

SP: That is cloture. Senator (Pia) Cayetano is only one senator. She cannot impose her will on the Senate. If she can get the numbers to cloture the other members, so be it. But I don't think the other senators will do that because that will be a precedent and while they may have the numbers now, the entire political weather might change and it can also be used against them. Kung walang timeline 'yung passage ng CamSur, Anti-Trust, Freedom of Information Bill, bakit may timeline ang passage ng RH?

Q: Sir nafinalize na po ba yung panel ng bicam sa Sin tax?

SP: Oo ang mga members ng bicam panel ay si Senators Drilon as chairman, Lacson , Osmena, Recto, Marcos, Alan Peter Cayetano as minority leader and Pia Cayetano. Pero silang dalawa bumoto for the Senate version of the Sin tax. Ang hindi bumoto ay si Joker and Chiz. If you talk of majority and minority, 15 voted in favor of the Senate version and two voted against it. I was suggesting that one of them should be included but Frank said pag ganun magiging 8. We cannot control the selection of the minority leader of his companion in the minority to represent them in the Senate.

Q: Sir, are you confident na mag-pe-prevail yung Senate version over the House version?

SP: I don't know. Every bicam is give and take.

Q: Would you really go back to smoking?

SP: Kaya ko mag-smoke ulit at itigil.

Q: Mas talamak ba yung smuggling sa cigarette kaysa sa alak?

SP: Hindi ko alam. Ang balita ko marami sa Mindanao. Nagulat ako na marami pala sa Maynila.

Q: Ano po yung mga pending bills that the Senate can pass before the Christmas break?

SP: Hindi ko alam. Yung FOI siguro pwede naming pag-usapan yun.

Q: Hindi po ba nasa period of interpellation na yung FOI?

SP: Hindi ko alam. Na kay Gringo yun. Hindi ko alam. I don't remember.

On the Right of Reply bill

SP: To me, it makes no difference. I can see the problem nung right of reply baka mapupuno yung peryodiko ng reply at hindi na viable yung peryodiko. And magsasayang ng newspaper prints para sa mga reply. I can see the problem. Kaya pag dine-criminalize mo yung libel, kawawa naman yung mga mumurahin na walang kasalanan. Ano yung kanyang depensa?

On the candidacy of former President Joseph Estrada as Manila Mayor

SP: Bakit nila hahadlangan yung kandidatura ni Erap? Malakas naman si Gen. Alfredo Lim. Pagbigyan ang Maynila na may choice naman.

Q: Sir, ang sabi po kasi yung pardon ni Erap conditional daw?

SP: Nagkandidato na siya for president. Bakit siya napayagan tumakbo for president? May precedent na yun. Mayor lang naman ang gusto niya. Kung tumakbo siya ng barangay captain, hahadlangan nila?

Q: May naririnig pa po ba kayong Senate coup?

SP: Inaantay ko nga eh. Araw araw akong nag-aantay. Sanay ako dyan. Nasa kanila yun. Hindi naman ako nageexpect na I will be loved forever.

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